roundtable #4

Topic: Darwinism/Evolution. Is it proper to allow children to be taught about evolution of man from apes or other organisms? or should children not know about this subject? anyone have any personal objections to the theory of evolution? –grosenbaum

I have no problems with children being taught Darwinism. At least it has some scientific theories that you can envelop around it. Creationism has no theories....just bang!...there is man. My religionious beliefs are science based and although it too does not embrace all the ideas developed by Darwin, it deos support the construct of an evolving and changing species environment on Earth. Darwin-based theories not only teach children about evolution, but also give them the defined parameters of how to develop ideas and hypothoses. Critical thinking skills require development of evolving thoughts and combinations of ideas, much like any living, breathing, evolving creature. –jeff

Jeff said: "I have no problems with children being taught Darwinism..." I would suggest you look a little more into Scientific Creationsim, there are a LOT of theories based on it. "My religionious beliefs are science based..." I tend to agree with you here, I do not believe in evolution but I believe in a very old earth with interspecies adaptation. "Darwin-based theories not only teach children about evolution..." Yes I guess I don't have too much of a problem with the philosophy of evolution being taught in schools as long as it is balanced with other just as valid and scientifically supported ideas such as Creationism. Creationism is no longer an ignorant philosphy but a science with a great deal of logic in it. What really bothers me is the teaching of the philosophy of evolution with the slant that tis is irrefutable proof that no smart person disagrees with anymore. Because that is a lie. Just because lots of people think it is true doesn't mean it is. For years people believed the earth was the center of the galaxy until they found out it wasn't. –joel

I personally think that children should be taught that there is more than one answer to everything. Unfortunately since nothing can be factually proven, either the bible (sorry guys) or Darwins theory of evolution. Noone was there, no one is positive. Just like the other planets, nobody knew for sure until they saw for a FACT. I agree there were dinosaurs, proven. I agree there is a god (not proven) but being taught that there are many possibilities opened my mind to the fact that maybe there isn't an easy answer for everything in the world, and MAYBE one person's opinion is not the only opinion out there. As long as children are given all the possibilities, they'll be able to make the decisions that make sense to them... If everyone believed the exact same thing, we'd never have a question like this to begin with. –alison

Alison a couple things. I will give you the point that there is no proof for God, I won't deny that at all. However there is a ton of proof for the Bible is people actually take the time to look for it. It is because people are taught at a young age that it is a book for people who need a crutch that people don't even bother looking into it. I totally agree with you that kids need to be given options and deicde for themselves. That is how I made my decisions, nether of my parents believe what I do, but they gave me the freedom to read and really look into whatever it was I was interested in (to a point of course) –joel

In the society that we live in, I think that it is fine to explore every possibility/theory when it comes to creation. The only reason that it caused so much controversy when the ideas of evolution were first introduced is because the world revolved around religion and god and nothing else. Now, people are more open-minded and everyone should, and has the right to explore every option in trying to find their own answers, whether it is rooted in religion or science. –michael

When I was in high school our life science teacher spent three days teaching us the theories of evolution. When he was done I asked in front of the class, "So now teach us about Creationism." He didn't know anything other then that Creationists believe God created man. That was it. He asked if I wanted to teach the class the next day and I said I would. I got the entire hour to teach about all of the aspects of Creationism to my whole class. I believe that children should be taught all accepted beliefs and then be allowed to choose what they believe for themselves. For example, me saying, "I created the earth from a wad of bubblegum" would not be an accepted belief to be taught, but since Creationism is believed by millions across the world it should be part of the curriculum. BTW, after my lesson the teacher took a poll and 95% of the kids in my class believed in creationism over evolution. –sandee

I think that schools should educate the students on the topic. But theres no point of hiding info from someone when it's there. Students should know the facts and different theories and be able to decide for themselves. –omar

I think one of the tough parts is that some of the concepts of evolution may be a little over the head of some grade schoolers, or creationism for that matter. I really think that those topics should be left until middle school at least when the kids will be able to understand some of the concepts involved in both of the philosophys. –joel

I take offence to anything that has no proof being taught as scientifically certain. I think that the vast majority of people know nothing about evolution but choose to accept it because then it involves zero responsilbity from people. It is much much easier to believe thhat you came from slime then to believe that someone or something created you for a purpose. If you came from slime yo can treat people and the world any darn way you want. If you were created for a purpose then you either want to live according to that purpose or chose not to but realize that there may be consequences. –joel

I agree Joel. Also, I do have personal objections to the theory of evolution because it goes against what I believe religiously and as we know, in this day of political correctness, you can't teach anything in school that may be offensive to someone's religious beliefs. Oh wait, I forgot, that doesn't include Christians, does it? –sandee

I've been learning about evolution in school, but what we're taught stresses mainly on Darwin's theory of evolution and then natural selection. I believe that natural selection occurs, and new species can form, but those species usually don't differ much from the original species. They are considered as different species in the sense that they can't produce fertile, viable offspring and they do not have the same role in the ecological system... (-time lapses... pple get bored to tears-) Anyway, what I believe is that humans did not evolve from single celled bacteria, but essentially evolution takes place in the way that the organisms can be thought of as genetically improved to survive in the ever change biosphere. However, I don't disagree with the teaching of evolution in schools, so long as students are presented with facts from different viewpoints and then make a decision themselves what to believe in. -li

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